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gorantec Tue 16 June 2009 04:01

DIY drives from pminmo, Cutting Video, #59 - Bitola, Macedonia
 
Hi

finaly i have all parts :D and today starting to build soon i will post pictures and if need help i i dont think theat i will not get mechmate is excellent community :cool:

domino11 Tue 16 June 2009 06:59

Good luck to you Gorantec! :)

gorantec Wed 17 June 2009 10:41

build started finaly
 
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i have start yesterday finaly and here is some pictures :)

javeria Wed 17 June 2009 10:56

Hi Gorantec - thats nice progress!

Gerald D Wed 17 June 2009 11:25

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Hi Gorantec

Watch out for the positions of the cross-supports relative to the long beams. They should not be symmetrical like in your pictures. Have a careful look at drawing 1010300W:


(I have added the approx 209 and 409 dimensions for the sketch above - there is 200mm difference from one side to the other)

gorantec Thu 18 June 2009 01:17

Gerald ,

what problem can i get if i go like is now in the pictures ?

Thanks
Goran

Gerald D Thu 18 June 2009 03:30

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Your router will not cover the full distance as shown below:


That dimension should be approx the "X" dimension you use for calculating the rail lengths, etc.

If that dimension is equal to your longest board/sheet, you will not be able to cut it all the way to the ends.

gorantec Fri 19 June 2009 01:16

the "X" rail in the picture is 2700 mm but my cutting area i like to be 2100 mm i think theat this calculation is correct ?

Gerald D Fri 19 June 2009 03:42

If you are only planning to cut 2100, then your table is okay. In fact, it looks nice and strong. Sorry that I made you a bit nervous about the length.

gorantec Sat 20 June 2009 04:29

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If you are only planning to cut 2100, then your table is okay. In fact, it looks nice and strong. Sorry that I made you a bit nervous about the length.
Ok thanks Gerald ;)

gorantec Sat 20 June 2009 04:31

i have stuck with driver from Deitech motors get enable but i can not move ? Whant can be problem ? Also since my power suply is not here yet im using power suply for test 32V and have around 9-10A can be theat problem which motors get enable but dont move ?

Gerald D Sat 20 June 2009 05:07

Can you give us lots of photos of your test setup/wiring for the motors?

Are you using Mach3 and PMDX-122? Something else?

javeria Sat 20 June 2009 07:48

have you drawn out a circuit which you an share with us? I really interested in this drivers.

RGDS
IRfan

gorantec Mon 22 June 2009 02:40

i was using brekaout board this http://pminmo.com/4axisopto/4axisDIYopto.htm but i also try today with this board http://pminmo.com/PMinMOwiki/index.p...4axisinterface and with this board i can enable/disable motor with Mach3 but still i can not move motor ?

gorantec Tue 23 June 2009 10:39

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Originally Posted by gorantec View Post
i was using brekaout board this http://pminmo.com/4axisopto/4axisDIYopto.htm but i also try today with this board http://pminmo.com/PMinMOwiki/index.p...4axisinterface and with this board i can enable/disable motor with Mach3 but still i can not move motor ?
with the second interface i have success but this test was on table will see when i finish construction and then i will post resaults from drivers .

domino11 Tue 23 June 2009 11:07

Gorantec,
Is this a board that you built yourself, or was it premade and tested?

gorantec Wed 24 June 2009 01:31

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Gorantec,
Is this a board that you built yourself, or was it premade and tested?
yes i made my self from here http://pminmo.com/PMinMOwiki/index.p...4axisinterface but now everything is ok will see when i finsih all ;)

domino11 Wed 24 June 2009 06:47

Yeah,
Phils site is very good for the DIY stuff. :) Good luck with it.

gorantec Sun 09 August 2009 14:16

just to let you know my project is not dead since i dont post anything :) my machine is finished painted and this will make first test and psot some pictures

domino11 Sun 09 August 2009 19:09

Gorantec,
Good luck, I take it your diy board is working fine now. :)

Gerald D Sun 09 August 2009 20:44

I look forward to lots of pictures! :)

We going to Croatia on holiday next year, but I am starting to think that Macedonia will be better!

sasko Mon 10 August 2009 09:21

I will suggest following links for you:
http://www.exploringmacedonia.com/ ; http://www.visitmacedonia.com.mk/

gorantec Tue 11 August 2009 00:47

Gerald you will not make mistake if you come to Macedonia :cool:

ok now i like some help my motors need power suply of min 32 Amps but i found power suply with more then 50 Amps and 58 V but i can not find some capacitors for theat suply what will happen if i put without capacitors ?

And also please let me know since my drivers are go to 256 micro steps what will be the best micro step ?

Gerald D Tue 11 August 2009 02:29

I think you make some typing mistakes 32 Amps? 50 Amps? That is far too much!

You must have the capacitors. If you cannot find new ones, then you will have to find old ones from scrapped electronics somewhere.

256 microsteps means that your computer must give very high frequency signals. A normal computer cannot go that fast. We mostly work with 10 microsteps.

gorantec Tue 11 August 2009 14:47

well the my motors are all rated 8Amps in bipolar parallel conection but i have put some power suply witch give 32V and 10A total with 30000 mF capacitors and the machine work perfect :D

My machine make first cut and was perfect at first time :D i will post pictures and video in couple hours

gorantec Tue 11 August 2009 16:20

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Ok here is picture of first cut and also videos :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szm2XpYS_w0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEUymYd-Prs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1T4VkUOKFQ

jhiggins7 Tue 11 August 2009 16:27

Gorantec,

Congratulations. Great work.:)

Okay now, just some logo's and you are ready for a Serial Number.:D

Gerald D Tue 11 August 2009 20:36

Very well done Gorantec!

How many other CNC routers are in Bitola? I am sure that you will get nice work for your new machine.

Kobus_Joubert Tue 11 August 2009 22:29

Well done . Let the real fun begin...enjoy

javeria Wed 12 August 2009 06:17

great sir, how are the drives performing???

domino11 Wed 12 August 2009 06:32

Great Results. You must be proud. :)

gorantec Thu 13 August 2009 05:45

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Originally Posted by Gerald D View Post
Very well done Gorantec!

How many other CNC routers are in Bitola? I am sure that you will get nice work for your new machine.
I hope theat i will have work i dont know how much have cnc router but have

gorantec Thu 13 August 2009 05:46

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Originally Posted by javeria View Post
great sir, how are the drives performing???
Drivers for now working perfect ?

gorantec Thu 13 August 2009 05:47

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Originally Posted by jhiggins7 View Post
Gorantec,

Congratulations. Great work.:)

Okay now, just some logo's and you are ready for a Serial Number.:D
yes this days i will put logo :D

gorantec Sat 29 August 2009 11:07

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Wellllllll i have problem with my MechMate :o

i have notice today i was like to making some mdf door but on the long distance i have see theat my mechamate dont work like need to work i dont have correct square on Y - axis on the X axis is everything ok but on Y :o please check the pic and some advice how to fix .

My thinking is to correect with Y rails to unweld and make to 90 degree angle .

jhiggins7 Sat 29 August 2009 12:28

Well, off-hand, it appears that your table in not square.

You show that the "y" out of square travel is 10 mm. How far does the bit have to travel in the "y" direction to get to be 10 mm out of square?

Are your X cross bearers welded or bolted? If bolted you can loosen the bolts of the cross bearers, loosen the bolts in the MDF and use a "come-along" diagonally across the table to square up the table.

I don't have experience with welded cross bearers, but I believe you can do the same thing on a welded table.

gorantec Sat 29 August 2009 12:40

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Well, off-hand, it appears that your table in not square.

You show that the "y" out of square travel is 10 mm. How far does the bit have to travel in the "y" direction to get to be 10 mm out of square?

Are your X cross bearers welded or bolted? If bolted you can loosen the bolts of the cross bearers, loosen the bolts in the MDF and use a "come-along" diagonally across the table to square up the table.

I don't have experience with welded cross bearers, but I believe you can do the same thing on a welded table.
Y travel 1100 mm to go -10mm my x rail is bolted so you think to make work totry with x rail ?

Gerald D Sat 29 August 2009 12:43

Gorantec, relax, no need to cut the gantry and weld again!

Read this thread: Setting the Y-axis square to the X-axis

Okay, that thread is not so easy to read....sorry. But, also look at drawing M1 20 100 A, where it says: "THIS DIMENSION IS ADJUSTED TO MAKE THE CARS RUN SQUARE AND TRUE". You need to adjust the washers between the V-rollers and the frame so that the y-gantry is square to the table when the motors are dropped down and the gantry is completely free.

Gerald D Sat 29 August 2009 12:45

John, the square of the table makes no difference. The cutting squareness is all decided by the gantry being square to one x-rail.

jhiggins7 Sat 29 August 2009 12:49

Looking back at your posts, those cross bearers definitely look like they are welded. If you are out-of-square and you can't change the table, you may have to adjust the X-rails...or at least your stops. The most important measurement for the X-rails is that they are parallel. I used a tape measure to check them after having used a measured rod to set them initially.

Or your Y Gantry may be out-of-square. You can check this by making sure that your X-stops are square and rolling the Y Gantry against the X-stops. I used the method of measuring from corner to corner diagonally across the table...both diagonals. I made sure theses measurements were within 1 mm. Once you've done this, the Gantry should hit the X-stops at the same time. If not, your Y Gantry is out-of-square.


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