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Old Mon 21 September 2009, 07:10
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
Feeds and Speeds #84 - Mortara, Italy

Thank you all for the help, especially Gerald for drawings.
I am Croatian from Opatija but I liv in Mortara - Italy (20 years). I have started last Christmas with MechMate and the reason why I have not write in this forum is my bad knowledge of English. I mus use the vocabulary when I reed the messages. Fortunately there are many photos in.
I am architectoni modeler and this is the reason why I want to built this machine. Not for cutting but for modeling. I am good in working wood and this is the first time I working iron. ( My welding makes cry) I am very sorry because my experience will not be much useful.

Technical data:
Mech Mate 150 x 200 cm
X and Y rails - V-guides on iron profile ( Pacific Bearings, v-guides + wheels + bushings cost me app. 600 €)
Racks from Chiaravalle
Some photos:
mach1.gifx-rail.gif
x-rail integro.gify-car.gif
v-guide.gif
I have found this problems: On the spider plat the wheel holes are distant 132mm app. and that was to short for me. look photos:
rupenepoklapaju.gifcalibro.gif
calibrorupe.gif
Fabricas suggestion: Weld the screw in the holes, filing, drilling new holes and taping.
vitisaldate.gifvitilimate.gif
dist140.gifnuovibuchi.gif
nuovifiletti.gif
To put surface in plane
smeriglia.gifdoposmeriglia.gif
Glass control and paralel control
vetro.gifcontroloparalelo.gif
Everything is smooth and perfect
gaugeplatein.gif
(I like the sound when the wheels rolling on guides)

Then I find that last 6 holes on the gauge plate not correspond with holes on the z-slide tube. I think the quotes are wrong???

Now I have to do with motors and electricity. HSD offers me a good price (480€) for MT 1073 Y6162Y0010 , 1.5 kW 220 V 18000 rpm. Am I wrong???
In my laboratory is instsled only 3.5 kW.

Its just 1 month I study the electrical components (in free time), and I want be sure in configuration which is good for me. I don't need speed but good finish. I have think about 24 gear pinion, Oriental motors 1:7.2, gecko drives 203, PDM 122.
I don't know how t instal E-stops and how to conect them, imagine for the other components. It will be a good school. I am very proud for the things I have just done. Thank you all and best wishes.

Panorama from my home in Croatia
opatija.gif
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Old Mon 21 September 2009, 07:30
jhiggins7
Just call me: John #26
 
Hebron, Ohio
United States of America
Vanja,

Welcome to the forum.

Your build looks great! Nice job.

Please continue to share your progress with us. Your experience may help someone else. You never know.
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Old Mon 21 September 2009, 07:57
Gerald D
Just call me: Gerald (retired)
 
Cape Town
South Africa
Welcome Vanja! Your English is quite okay - I understand you. Sorry about the drawing problems, I will check them. Your progress is great!.

Is your house in Opatija available for holiday rent?
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Old Mon 21 September 2009, 08:05
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
Yes it is. I can send you soe photos of the place if you want!?!
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Old Mon 21 September 2009, 16:31
kooskoek
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Centurion
South Africa
What a view,wow
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Old Mon 21 September 2009, 18:26
Robert M
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Lac-Brome, Qc
Canada
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Welcome aboard and yes, you may just bring more useful experience than you think, all work is good to see & compare too.
Plus if you participate in this forum, your future usage & experience with your MM will be useful and good source to this fun community.
Congratulation on your progress and please come back some more photos as you progress !
Best of luck
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Old Sun 27 February 2011, 08:25
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
control box and mach3

This is what I have done last weeks after one year pause.
Attachment 11318
power sopply 2x 25 V parallel wiring, two condensers 22000uF and 10000uF.
I have try to take 9 V from toroid makeing 22 loops around. First time I have misurated the voltage it was 9 V. When I fixed it on the iron plate I have misurated again and the voltage was 6 V. Than I decided that it is better not
to risk and I buy a 5 - 9 - 12 V transformator.
I have orderd a new computer for move the motors and I ask the vendor to put on one parallel port. He puts me on PCI parallel board Kraun KR.g5 sunix 1888 with two parallel ports. It was monday.
How to find the port adress?
First problem was that my PCI bord was not enabled PnP in BIOS.(Bios-advanced-PCI PnP- plug and play o/s [YES]). Than I find te adress here:
device-management copia.gif
It was wednesday.
Second problem was that short conection E-stop was very bad and at the moments make false alarm on mach3. I have changed the wire(number 3 above). Than I forgeted to enable charge pump on pin 17 in MACH3.(I've think I dont need it because "I have not any pump on my machine".) I have spend days on google search to find the solution but the solution was in MechMate forum. The led (number 2 above) on pmdx122 is E-stop. If it lit motors dont turn. The led (number 1 above) is the heart of pmdx122. If it don't lit nothing moves.
pd122 copia.gif
Friday finaly I turn first motor.What a lovely sound it has.
wiring.jpg
Thanks to all !!!!!!
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Old Sun 27 February 2011, 09:08
Gerald D
Just call me: Gerald (retired)
 
Cape Town
South Africa
Welcome back Vanja!
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Old Sun 27 February 2011, 13:03
Khanid
Just call me: Khanid
 
Lipik
Croatia
Nice to see more Croatians here!

@Vanja

Pogledaj nas pocetak rada na MM plazmi pod rubrikom pocetak gradnje!
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Old Sun 27 February 2011, 14:35
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
vec vidjeno.Puno citam, malo pisem (slab engleski)
I hope you help me to translate some things when I find difficulties
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Old Sun 27 February 2011, 14:37
Khanid
Just call me: Khanid
 
Lipik
Croatia
Quote:
Originally Posted by vanja.ivancic View Post
vec vidjeno.Puno citam, malo pisem (slab engleski)
I hope you help me to translate some things when I find difficulties
Nema problema, samo javi kada te nesto muci!
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Old Sun 27 February 2011, 18:08
domino11
Just call me: Heath
 
Cornwall, Ontario
Canada
Nice to hear from you Vanja!
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Old Mon 28 February 2011, 13:29
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
Thanks for your contribution
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Old Sat 05 March 2011, 13:58
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
two tipe of pinons - 24 and 35 teeth
2pinons.gif
I wontn to put 35 teeth pinon but I can because is to big. My rail is to high.
vguidehight.gif
Can I alarge the hole on the picture above??? I need only 3mm!!!
hole.gifgen.gif
Or maybe is better to change the design of motor plate?!?
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Old Sat 05 March 2011, 14:11
bradm
Just call me: Brad #10
 
Somerville(MA)
United States of America
I see no reason why you can't extend that slot; it's a guide and it isn't load bearing. In fact, although it wouldn't be as pretty, you could likely extend it right to the edge of the plate.

Two other possibilities: Cut off the tab for the other (hinge) bolt, and weld it back on a little longer, or even simpler - drill a new hole in the gantry below the existing hinge bolt hole.
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Old Sat 05 March 2011, 14:43
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
The last solution is the simpliest and probably the best,
Thanks
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Old Sat 05 March 2011, 15:21
smreish
Just call me: Sean - #5, 28, 58 and others
 
Orlando, Florida
United States of America
On MM #5 I had to relocate the pivot hole on the gantry to allow for larger pinions on a special project. Easy to do - just remember to countersink that hole!

Sean
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Old Sat 05 March 2011, 21:34
Kobus_Joubert
Just call me: Kobus #6
 
Riversdale Western Cape
South Africa
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I had the same problem on MechMate #6. I measured 28mm hight from the inside of the angle iron. The slotting of the motor mount plate took care of the problem.
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Old Sun 06 March 2011, 05:18
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
Yes, cause there is not space to do the other hole in the gantry. Than is difficult to countersink the hole now.
Other problem i have seen is to hold sloted screw head when you mount the motor.
Maybe this can be solution for pinons up to 36 teeths
newmotorplate copia.gif
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Old Tue 14 June 2011, 09:24
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
Seems it work!

Seems it work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oeeFKJqf2w

Last edited by Gerald D; Tue 14 June 2011 at 20:53.. Reason: fixed link
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Old Tue 14 June 2011, 09:37
Gerald D
Just call me: Gerald (retired)
 
Cape Town
South Africa
Vanja, Youtube is still loading your file . . . . .
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Old Tue 14 June 2011, 12:13
danilom
Just call me: Danilo #64
 
Novi Sad
Serbia
don't know if it matters but with the end letter "w" small it works

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oeeFKJqf2w
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Old Tue 14 June 2011, 20:55
Gerald D
Just call me: Gerald (retired)
 
Cape Town
South Africa
Yes, it works and looks great - well done!
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Old Wed 15 June 2011, 02:23
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
Fortunatly there are meny other things to do (spindle,limit swiches etc).
Mech Mate is never finished....
(Hvala Danilo)
I have a litle problem with Mach blue probing.Zero plate works but center finding seems to work with inches insted of mm. Maybee someone have idea how I can change the program? I have not find solution in mach forum and cnc forum.
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Old Wed 15 June 2011, 03:25
kaartman
Just call me: Koning #20
 
Abu Dhabi
United Arab Emirates
Congratulations Vanja, enjoy playing with the new toy.
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Old Wed 15 June 2011, 05:27
danilom
Just call me: Danilo #64
 
Novi Sad
Serbia
Be sure to download latest version
http://www.machsupport.com/screens/M...by_Big-Tex.zip

It should have the metric/inch check with GetOemLED(801) in tool zeroing, but I also don't see it it the PROBES section for center finding.

Here is the screenset which one user on cnczone changed to metric, try this one but be sure to have a finger on a RESET button if anything goes wrong. just copy this file to Mach directory and load it View->Load Screens.
cnc.rs/mechmate/MachBlue_probing_metric_version2.set

this is the thread on cnczone where I found it
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/mach_w...big-tex-7.html

Also if you want to check the button script, go to Mach3 menu... Operator->Edit Button Script and click on a button you need.

Pozdrav!
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Old Wed 15 June 2011, 05:50
danilom
Just call me: Danilo #64
 
Novi Sad
Serbia
I think that this should solve it faster:

go to Operator -> Edit button Script , click on a button for center finding, look for a line that says
" XNew = Xcurrent - 3 'probe 3 inches to left "

just change the number 3 with amount of millimeters you need, you have 3 more occurrences of this command, for x+ , y- and y+

also edit other buttons to you liking !
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Old Wed 15 June 2011, 12:02
vanja.ivancic
Just call me: vanja #84
 
mortara
Italy
I will try tomorow!
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Old Wed 15 June 2011, 15:36
MetalHead
Just call me: Mike
 
Columbiana AL
United States of America
Nice to see another MechMate in action !! You get number 84.
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Old Wed 15 June 2011, 18:47
HomeMadeCnc
Just call me: Tim
 
Calgary, Alberta
Canada
Congratz! Now the real work begins

Cheers
Tim
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