Cool tables and spindle ordering fun #6 - Brakpan, S.Africa

[hennie]

Right My China!

[Alan_c]

Kobus

What have you done regarding the cable chain? I dont see any pics of your set-up, did you get from your local supplier at the good price as mentioned before? What is the lengths of your cables as finally assembled?

ps - Sorry for the loss over the weekend , now we are on the same position on the log

[Kobus_Joubert]

Just had to have a quick look at the forum via Black Berry in the lounge at the lodge. No signal at the cabin. Will feedback on Friday night when I get home.

Originally Posted by Alan_c

Kobus

What have you done regarding the cable chain? I dont see any pics of your set-up, did you get from your local supplier at the good price as mentioned before? What is the lengths of your cables as finally assembled?

ps - Sorry for the loss over the weekend , now we are on the same position on the log

[Kobus_Joubert]

Hi there, I am back, rested and ready to get to BBB tomorrow....after doing some work in and around the house. Was also told/instructed by the BOSS today to get on and build her Glass Fusing and Slumping Kiln now that I have my TOY.

Wel I did go and play with different CAM software and in the end decided to go for Cut2D from Vectric. Very easy to use and understand, the price is right and I am sure that it will do what I want it to do for a while.

Alan, when I got the quote for the cable chain I was not ready to jump in and build my machine. By the time I got to that stage, the price whent up by 3. So what I did, I bundled the cables together, screwed plastic anchors about half way into the beams and used cable ties to get them on the machine. The X-Axis DRAGS on the ground where nobody walks and on the Y I made some sort of BASKET where the cables can wind and unwind. Will try and get some pictures tomorrow.

[Alan_c]

Originally Posted by Kobus_Joubert

Alan, when I got the quote for the cable chain I was not ready to jump in and build my machine. By the time I got to that stage, the price went up by 3.

Hell, doesn't that burn your a*se, that's just plain profiteering and they will probably blame it on the oil price or the Rand - Euro exchange, not that either one of those rose by 300% At least you have come right with a work around. The steel price is just as aggravating, my actual cost has doubled from my original quotes of one year ago and if I dont get the remaining steel before the end of the month it goes up by another 12%.

Anyway, on to happier thoughts, how was the fishing, any good bites?

[hennie]

Welkome back!
You must let mummy post on the forum.My Boss is to scared.

Ja, Alan I had the same thing with the steel.I would say if someone starts building they need to get the steel first and put it in storage.I had it within a month the price was nearly R 1000 more.

[Gerald D]

We have just come out of a boom economic period, where sales & turnover was high and companies made good profits. Now that sales have fallen off drastically, the accountants are trying to figure out how to make the same profits off the smaller volumes, or lose their jobs . . . . . and everyone's prices go crazy.

[Kobus_Joubert]

I am so glad BBB is finished...sort off...price of steel , exchange rate etc forgotten for a while. This weekend I had to put a new door between the flatlet and the house. Thought it would be great to see BBB do something bigger. This floral design and edge took less than 5 minutes to cut. Did pick up that my table is not 100% flat anymore...I moved it a few times to do some work on it after flattening the bed and I know that the floor is not 100% level.

The other pictures are for Alan to show my improvised cable chain setup.

Gerald, I find he settings for X and Y (9000) a bit high. Going down to 5000 it gave me better results...this I see when engraving text. At 9000 the ARIEL looks completely different. At 5000 it is nice and square.

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[normand blais]

Nice machine Mr Joubert
I wanted to show my improvised cable setup . I put all the cable inside a vaccum hose and the extention for the power to the router is tied on the side. The hose fit nicely in a 2X3 metal stud actually the tract used for drywall .It will protect the cables from rubbing on metal .I did the same for the dust collecting system. This was to be temporary but never got around to change it for the last 4 years
Normand

[Kobus_Joubert]

That is also a great idea..when I install my dust system I might just get a meter or so extra for this.

[Kobus_Joubert]

Anybody out there with some GLASS KILN building experience ? Since this forum is so full of people with wonderful ideas and help to each other, I thought I can only ask.

[Greg J]

Originally Posted by Kobus_Joubert

Was also told/instructed by the BOSS today to get on and build her Glass Fusing and Slumping Kiln now that I have my TOY.

Kobus,

My wife wants to make "stuff" / "slumping", along with some stain glass art.

Are you building a kiln from the ground up?? If you are, I might be building one also. Not too sure I want to be building something that reaches temperature around 1200 to 2,000 deg. F.

Have your "Boss" send my "Boss" a pm.

[normand blais]

Some wooden belt buckles I made for a young artist . She does beatifull glass work . She will pick up some more today or so ,if you have some questions I could ask her. http://noujica.blogspot.com/ her web site .

[Kobus_Joubert]

Hi Greg, the idea is to build one from scratch. I have the RAMP controller already and have some info, but still looking for more information on design and building of a kiln that will do the job.

Thanks for the photo Normand, but I am more interested in the design and building of the Kiln itself. My wife does the glass work, but always relied on the studio's for the fusing and slumping part.

[Lex]

Kobus,
Did you use the original motor laser profile mounting plates as shown on Gerald's drawings for the Motion kings, or did you profile cut new plates?

[Kobus_Joubert]

Both are on the drawings. Geared and straight. I first had the geared motor plates cut, then later the standard ones.

[Gerald D]

Lex, you need 3 off M5 10 312 and 1 off M5 10 322 for the MotionKings

[kaartman]

Hi kobus
stuur vir my jou e-pos adres asseblief, myne is kaartman@eim.ae or please send me your email address, regards

[Kobus_Joubert]

Done

[hennie]

Did you come right with the pipes for the extraction?

Prices that I got from supplier in George was.

85 mm od R 93 excl.
110mm od R 102 excl.
125 mm od R 110 excl.

[Kobus_Joubert]

Those JOKERS took my name and number and promised to phone back.....they have to phone their suppliers he said.... still waiting.

[Kobus_Joubert]

Ok Ok I know it is not the right stuff, but for now the price was right and it works ok for me.

After a lot of promises and inflated prices for dust pipes I got hold of this Alu. type AIR DUCT pipe...10 meters for R 57.00 + Vat. Went to Hardware Centre and got a Alu. Blast Gate..stripped this thing in 2 and fitted the one half to my dust foot. What a pleasure to be able to sit and watch BBB do it's thing without a dust mask.

The round THING my wife got hold of and painted it. These are little thing that I play with to get to grips with design / cutter setup. Quickly learned that a simple circle design with only single lines can produce different patterns when you use different cutters and different depth setting.

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[Alan_c]

Nice going Kobus, not sure what kind of life you will get out of that pipe, the wall is very thin and the dust is quite abrasive. Have you tried Austro, they have a big range in stock, the price is not cheap (Swiss manufacture) but I can assure you the quality is very good. I tried various "cheap" options in the factory, but I spent my time replacing lengths regularly, the Swiss one outlasts the others by up to 6 times longer (should last you until second retirement...)

[Kobus_Joubert]

Thanks Alan, As this is not a production machine I hope that this stuff will last a while until I make some money and buy the proper pipe....but for this price, I can replace a few of these lengths.

[Gerald D]

Kobus, we ran 110mm "rigid" sewerage pipe until above the center of the table, and then dropped only about 3m of the flexible expensive stuff down. We get blockages when there are thin long offcuts mixed with star-shaped scrap. Flipping the fan over reduced the kinks for blockages.

[Kobus_Joubert]

I had a plan like this as well, but what fitting did you use to join the 110mm rigid PVC pipe to the 100 mm flex. pipe or is your flex pipe also 110 mm?
I don't have enough room between BBB and my roof, and made an arm that swing from left to right following the gantry as it travels up and down the X - axis..still need to put some curtain rail on this swing arm to take up the slack when I get closer to the wall with the Z-Car.

[Gerald D]

The 100mm flex pipe fits inside the 110mm socket, with some filler/sealer goo, and the two wires you see to take the strain off the joint.

[Kobus_Joubert]

Just BECAUSE I CAN.......

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[hennie]

Vryf dit in ! ( rub it in ).
Seems like this is a challenge?

[Jason Marsha]

Kobus,
There is a free program on cnczone called spiro that will allow you to create swirls and more complex designs similar to your picture if you are interested.