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  #91  
Old Tue 01 December 2009, 06:16
J.R. Hatcher
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Anil I don't think you need to do any to the overhanging rails. My next machine will overhang about 4" with no support. J.R.
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  #92  
Old Tue 01 December 2009, 06:31
Gerald D
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Cape Town
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I agree with J.R. - those overhanging rails are really not a problem.
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  #93  
Old Tue 01 December 2009, 07:52
gixi
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Quote:
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Avo Marius, you were cut, burned and electrocuted and you havn't sued the owner of the MechMate site for all these injuries?
Gerald it's too late for me to do that now when all my friends hear from me what a nice guy you are. But speaking seriously grinder could become a very dangerous tool when you are thinking at something else during the cutting process.
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  #94  
Old Tue 01 December 2009, 10:16
aniljangra
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Quote:
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I agree with J.R. - those overhanging rails are really not a problem.
OK, then I'll go ahead and round and deburr the sharp corners/edges pf the rails and let them overhung.
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  #95  
Old Tue 01 December 2009, 22:10
padmanaabha
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Bangalore
India
Sorry, I didn't know. Will be tracking your progress. Very eager to see the machine working.
all the best again.
Pady
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  #96  
Old Sat 05 December 2009, 14:57
aniljangra
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Z-slide done

Doing z-axis worked out to be most time consuming for me, most time gone towards beveling z-slide plate. Then there was a wild spider so it has to go under the cutter
wild-spider.jpg
spider.jpg
And the z-axis test assembled, I am sure everyone is going to shout at me for another mistake ? Rack holes on wrong side of plate. Anyway after drilling another 2 holes for rack I will put dummy screws on these and the screw pattern will look symmetrical
OR can i simply use tape ??
z-slide.jpg
And it started looking familiar
loosly-assembled.jpg
And nobody is going to comment on my ugly weld or I'll stop posting pics
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  #97  
Old Sat 05 December 2009, 16:54
Castone
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Soddy Daisy , Tn
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Almost there

Hey your almost there! soon you will be making chips fly and dont worry you always have to break a few eggs to bake a cake. It looking good.
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  #98  
Old Sun 06 December 2009, 00:27
aniljangra
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Thanks Castone, The major part now (the part left is always major one) is finishing it all. All the deburring/cleaning/grinding/painting is a time consuming and never ending part
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  #99  
Old Sun 06 December 2009, 00:38
Claudiu
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Arad
Romania
Hey Anil,

you have made nice progress with your build!

Don`t bother about bad welds, but never post anything with Led Lights...

Greetings
Claus
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  #100  
Old Sun 06 December 2009, 02:08
aniljangra
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Claus, Thanks for the warning about lights
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  #101  
Old Sun 06 December 2009, 11:41
aniljangra
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Belt drive plates joined today, ready for assembling after painting. Looks crude and not pretty as CNCed Alu. plates but I prefer weld over bolts somehow !
belt-drive-weld2.jpg
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  #102  
Old Fri 11 December 2009, 13:22
aniljangra
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Quick and sloppy paint job
p-table.jpg

p-table1.jpg

p-gantry.jpg

p-motor-plates.jpg

p-spider.jpg

p-ycar.jpg

p-zslide.jpg
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  #103  
Old Sat 12 December 2009, 21:57
padmanaabha
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Bangalore
India
Mechmate is all over the place, Anil. Can see how u r enjoying the progress. All the best.
Pady
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  #104  
Old Sun 13 December 2009, 06:01
aniljangra
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Pady, Much fun still remains as it gets assembled and the electrical / electronics part done, so hurry up and pack up if you don't want to miss all that fun
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  #105  
Old Sun 13 December 2009, 12:48
aniljangra
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Getting closer :)

Aligning the banana snake rails is no easy task, some pics taken during the process.
Using a thread, first fixed the point that were correct and then pushed or pulled the rails where miss aligned.
Pushing the at one point using clamp was simple
pushing.JPG

Pulling the other way required more clamps
pulling1.JPG
pulling2.JPG
pulling3.JPG
pulling4.JPG

Then draw filed the points as needed and finally straightened and smooth using V block and sand paper.
sanding-block.JPG

Checking and it passes (my criteria being not so stringent as others here)
checking.JPG

All Gantry wheels seems to sit without gap over the travel except 0,0 corner because rails is sharply bent and clamps doesn't seems to work on correcting such sharp bend.
seating1.JPG
seating2.JPG

And Gantry riding on rails...
x-done.JPG

Now moving on to Y rails, hunting for holes in clamp strip..
locating.JPG

Its late today so final alignment of y-rails be done tomorrow, just a pic of y-car riding the (yet to be aligned) rails.
y-done.JPG

Partially assembled the belt reduction plates, pulleys on all of them are smooth, that's a great relief
belt-drive.JPG

By the way, had to undo and assembled these twice as I forgot to insert the belts first time. Anyone doing belt drives, don't repeat my mistake
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  #106  
Old Sun 13 December 2009, 13:53
Claudiu
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Arad
Romania
Anil

You did a great job so far. Looking goood
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  #107  
Old Sun 13 December 2009, 14:04
aniljangra
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Thanks Claus, I wish my build was as good as yours but as you can see I don't have patience like you

Look, I painted without even welding stop blocks, proxy, chain mounts etc, and I am sure I must be missing many more such things...

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  #108  
Old Sun 13 December 2009, 16:12
Robert M
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Lac-Brome, Qc
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Look, I painted without even welding stop blocks, proxy, chain mounts etc, and I am sure I must be missing many more such things...

What seems to rush you...
Make sure you at least have stoppers ( Stop blocks )
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  #109  
Old Sun 13 December 2009, 23:00
Claudiu
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Arad
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aniljangra View Post
Look, I painted without even welding stop blocks...
I also did not paint the last 10 inches of the rails to have my stop blocks welded at last. I wanted to get most travel so I waited with them until to the very last, to check most travel.
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  #110  
Old Mon 14 December 2009, 00:20
aniljangra
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robert M View Post
What seems to rush you...
Make sure you at least have stoppers ( Stop blocks )
I don't mean to eliminate the stop blocks or proxies, Its just that I thought "the welding work is done so lets paint it ".
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  #111  
Old Wed 16 December 2009, 00:14
aniljangra
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Control box for sensors/buttons

My solution for connecting the sensors and buttons to BOB is to feed all the inputs to a control box riding on gantry (as discussed in past on this forum). Already drawn schematic in Eagle and doing the PCB, here is the rendering of the board (checking the size that can fit all those connectors )
Top edge there are 8 connectors for sensors, left edge is the power connector, right side the LEDs and bottom edge the connectors for buttons, probes and output to BoB)

Circuit diagram is also attached for someone to have a look at, I tried to keep it as simple as possible
cntrl-avr.pdf
cntrl-avr.jpg

Please (everyone ) suggest if something is missing or not correct :

1. Take inputs from 8 NPN proximity sensors and combine them in one output to BOB. Four of them can be Home and other 4 Limit sensors. As all the inputs are ANDed, as many as required can be used and all other inputs can be left unconnected.

2. Eight LEDs to show the status of which one triggered the output. LED will be latched till reset.

3. Take Inputs from all three button stations and combine them in output to BOB. On each station there are 3 buttons a) Estop, b) Pause/Resume, c) Z-zero (we only need one button for Pause and Resume, though the controller will send output to 2 seperate line to BOB depending on the current state). All buttons are NO type

4. Take input from Touch plate (Active low) and Touch prob (Active high) and combine them together. ( As I haven't yet worked with Mach3, I am not sure of this combined probe/plate output can be further combined to the output from proxies or it need to be seperate output to Bob, please suggest ?). Anyway this is not going to affect H/W and can be changed in code anytime.
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  #112  
Old Wed 16 December 2009, 03:42
javeria
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Bangalore
India
hmm need only three proximities to act as limit and home switches, on my machine I use only 3.

there is only one signal required for the Z tool zero probe,
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  #113  
Old Wed 16 December 2009, 05:35
aniljangra
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Ok, I'll reduce the number of proxy inputs to 4.

Also while browsing thread on this topic I found the answer to my other question "Z-zero can be combined to other inputs ..."

So now there will be 2 inputs one N/O and one N/C from Probe/touch plate and there will be no separate output ( these will be combined in series with the output that is used for proxies).

Also noticed that there need to be an option for a seperating one of the output from X proxy for auto squaring, so there will be a jumper for this selection.

So now a smaller chip can be used. I'll draw a new schematic today. Thanks
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  #114  
Old Wed 16 December 2009, 10:21
paniken
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KERALA
India
I am Hari pradeep from kerala India.Can you give me prices for Hong Kong motors and drives if you are importing for me
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  #115  
Old Wed 16 December 2009, 13:22
aniljangra
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Updated as :
- Number of proxies reduced to four.
- Jumper added for routing one proxy output to separate pin for auto squaring.
- Probe output combined with other proxy outputs.
- E stop is directly routed to BoB input, other buttons goes via controller.
- Smaller chip and smaller board.
Here is placement view, next to route the PCB and program uC.

cntrl-avr1.jpg

Suggestions are welcome as I usually rush and miss things

Already got one suggestion to take thermistor input from spindle for early warning for high temperature before VFD shuts it down due to overheating, thus the work can be paused and resumed later. So saved one pin on controller for that, now searching for thermistor specs ?? (don't have spindle yet). I guess its some kind of NTC !!
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  #116  
Old Thu 17 December 2009, 12:32
aniljangra
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Got some missing electronic parts for drives and fixed heat sinks. All of them tested good with motor attached. As small parts of kitchen table project sort of went well. . I made 6 of them just in case i blow up one or two dring testing but it all went well.
drives-tested.jpg
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  #117  
Old Thu 17 December 2009, 20:33
javeria
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Bangalore
India
looking forward to see them zip zap and zoom the mechmate
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  #118  
Old Fri 18 December 2009, 05:50
Claudiu
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Arad
Romania
Anil, respect. You are a real electronics Guru.
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  #119  
Old Mon 21 December 2009, 12:19
aniljangra
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Claus, making few circuits don't make you guru

Moving on to MM, the pic shows the way I managed to get rails seated on those twisted gantry tubes, as shims were not working I laid some welds on top of tubes across the length and using tightened wire, level and a flat slab grind off the high points.
twist1.JPG

Just to add, the rails were removed and then the welds were laid on top of tubes.
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  #120  
Old Mon 21 December 2009, 12:22
aniljangra
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Few items from recent shopping
caps.JPG

chain.JPG

connectors.JPG

sensors.JPG

thimbles.JPG

ties.JPG
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