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  #211  
Old Fri 05 March 2010, 00:29
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Thanks for the kind words.

Jan got me interested in growing food, would love to see how the dibbler take shape.

Managed to squeeze some time to line up the gantry wheels & one of the y-rail. but work just had to get in the way of fun.

Hope to show some pix after I get the other y-rail align n the y-car riding on the rails.
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  #212  
Old Sun 07 March 2010, 02:56
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Got the rails aligned, gantry ride on x-rail, & y-car on the gantry rail.
Aligned rail gantry & car.jpg

Next I power brushed the rack as recommended by the Romanian dentist & the teeth meshing situation improved, but unfortunately, my brush is a seriously worn out. Will do a more thorough brushing when I get hold of a new dish brush.

QC question. Please advise me if you will reject this racks to proceed with welding?
Dry fit Rack join 1.jpgDry fit Rack join 2.jpg
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  #213  
Old Sun 07 March 2010, 07:33
javeria
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Bangalore
India
ken try to slowly grind( I did that with my angle grinder) the edges to get them to mate properly
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  #214  
Old Sun 07 March 2010, 07:44
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Irfan, do you mean grind the end so that the 2 ends of the butt joins mate nicely?
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  #215  
Old Sun 07 March 2010, 08:05
javeria
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Bangalore
India
Exactly
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  #216  
Old Sun 07 March 2010, 08:39
Gerald D
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Cape Town
South Africa
Ken,

First, I suggest that you do not put a bar across the backs of the racks that you want to join. If your racks are each of a different height, that is not a serious problem, as long as you you have the gear sections of the rack in line.

Second, it seems like the last 50mm of the top right rack got damaged, or was badly machined. Cut it off and scrap that piece, but if you really need that length, then put that section at X=max on your table.
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  #217  
Old Sun 07 March 2010, 23:21
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Gerald,
The racks are of the same height, or very close. but I'll not have a bar as back as you advised.
I inspected the rails closer this time & found out most of the racks are deformed at the ends, they bow about ~1mm away from the teeth in short distance of 1~3 teeth. will chop & scrap them. & grind the ends for good butt joint as Irfan advised.
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  #218  
Old Sun 07 March 2010, 23:38
Gerald D
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Cape Town
South Africa
As per the drawing M2 10 110 W, I advise to avoid a good butt joint, if you are planning to weld them together. The welding wants a space to be able to penetrate.
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  #219  
Old Mon 08 March 2010, 00:32
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
OK. Will prepare a V-groove with the gear teeth root almost touching & a gap of 2~3mm on the back/toothless side of the rack.
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  #220  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 03:50
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Ground & welded the racks as close as my skill allow as shown in plan.
Would appreciate QC check before taping the racks.
Please pardon my poor image quality. I only have my handphone camera handy at this time.
Rack Join.jpg

Rack Join 1.jpg

Rack Join 2.jpg

Rack Join 3.jpg

Rack Join 4.jpg

Rack Join 5.jpg

Another question, I can't seem to find the dimension of the rack position in the plan, Can I assume to position it at the mid-point of the gantry/beams?
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  #221  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 04:02
Gerald D
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Cape Town
South Africa
Remember that those welds are very weak for cracking open from the teeth side, so handle with lots of care now. Yes, the racks are in the center of the rails/beams.
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  #222  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 04:13
Surfcnc
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Queensland
Australia
Yet another milestone passed with the joining of the racks Ken.

Cheers
Ross
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  #223  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 04:24
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Gerald, the joins are weak, broke twice

Ross, not just yet, let me tape the rails on before I'll call it a milestone.
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  #224  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 04:29
Surfcnc
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Queensland
Australia
Very well Ken I see your point, it's not done until it's finished. It's that pragmatic approach that has got you this far.

Regards
Ross
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  #225  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 05:23
Gerald D
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Cape Town
South Africa
Ken, we welded across the back, and down the sides until just before the teeth to make a fairly strong joint. But your current settings seem to be vicious and I don't want to encourage you to go nearer the teeth with that type of welding.
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  #226  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 05:28
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
I merely "standing on the shoulder of the giant", "follow the foot steps of the great minds" & realizing "you can eat an elephant a bite at a time"

But this describe my present mental state best
"学而时习之,不亦乐乎"
"Enormous joy when practicing the knowledge I learn."

Anyway, taped the Y-rack on the gantry. and realized the rails slew a lot with respect to the gantry beam. Do I need to re-align the rails?

Y-rack on gantry.jpg

Y-rack on gantry 1.jpg
Left end of the rack

Y-rack on gantry 2.jpg
Right end of the rack

"AH HUH! I just know its not going to be so easy"
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  #227  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 05:45
javeria
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Bangalore
India
Relax ken - been in similar situation a hundred times
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  #228  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 05:49
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gerald D View Post
Ken, we welded across the back, and down the sides until just before the teeth to make a fairly strong joint. But your current settings seem to be vicious and I don't want to encourage you to go nearer the teeth with that type of welding.
I'm aware of this too, hence I dare not go on welding the sides with my present welding skill & damage the rack teeth.
Better safe then sorry.
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  #229  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 05:58
Gerald D
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Cape Town
South Africa
Ken, as long as your rails are straight, forget about the beams.
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  #230  
Old Tue 09 March 2010, 06:04
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Thanks Gerald.
Will proceed with the X-racks installation tomorrow when I get hold of some extra hands to handle the fragile rails.
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  #231  
Old Sat 13 March 2010, 00:43
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Finally got some help to taped the x-racks on & did a little more then that.
X-rail assembled.jpg

Then made the Y-hold down from a piece of AL found in my junk bin
Y-hold down.jpg

Y-hold down assembled.jpgY-hold down assembled 1.jpg

Bought some bolt, nuts & washers
X-motor assembled.jpg

And now we have this
X & Y Motor assembled.jpg

Almost at the milestone now, just waiting for the custom springs to show up.

While waiting for the spring & Z-axis parts, I'll get some work on the control panel & the PC.
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  #232  
Old Sat 13 March 2010, 05:57
riesvantwisk
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Quito
Ecuador
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Ken,

you machine coming together!
One thing I noticed, the y/hold down does have a fairly small nut/bold going to the ball baring. I am not a mechanic, it just looks small...

Ries
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  #233  
Old Sat 13 March 2010, 06:27
SumBum
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PA
United States of America
Almost there Ken, I bet your getting excited to do some cutting.
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  #234  
Old Sat 13 March 2010, 06:27
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Ries, She is taking shape slowly, I must to thank on the Y-hold down idea.
The hole is about Dia. 10mm, at that time, I only have that M8 pan head bolt that is long enough, now that you mentioned it, will buy a suitable M10 pen head bolt when I pick up the springs.

Just realized another laser profile 10 60 216 for X-cable chain carrier is missing, I guess I'll figure out something along the way.

Jay, sure looking forward to some wood dust making, exited but exhausted too, apparently, the adrenaline wins when I come in to the shop & the fatigues takes over when I got home....

Ken

Last edited by KenC; Sat 13 March 2010 at 06:30..
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  #235  
Old Sat 13 March 2010, 08:39
hennie
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Roodepoort JHB
South Africa
I see another number
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  #236  
Old Sat 13 March 2010, 10:12
Kobus_Joubert
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Riversdale Western Cape
South Africa
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And lots of DUST...we LOVE dust
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  #237  
Old Fri 19 March 2010, 03:38
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
Took the easy way out with my Z-slide.
Z-slide 1.jpg
Z-slide 3.jpg
Z-slide 2.jpg

Now, this is a pleasant sight
Z-slide Assembled.jpg

Edit. The assembly does require some shimming to achieve a smooth movement; I should had asked the machine shop to face the plates ... anyway, at least I had the comfort that I saved a some money on that...

Last edited by KenC; Fri 19 March 2010 at 03:44.. Reason: More info
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  #238  
Old Fri 19 March 2010, 06:01
KenC
Just call me: Ken
 
Klang
Malaysia
Hi guys,
Need professional advise.
I spend some time shimming the linear slides & got it smoother. and 2 questions arises while I was enjoying the shimming process.
1) I got the slide assembly moved without feeling the ball bearing during motion & as light to push as I could, but I do need some initial force (not a lot, no need to burst my muscle... but a finger push isn't enough, more like a palm's moderate push) to set the slide movement & it feel tight as well. Its that how it suppose to be?
2) what lubricant is suitable for these linear slide in MM's application? sticky grease or light lub oil?

Thanks in advance.
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  #239  
Old Fri 19 March 2010, 06:10
Gerald D
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Cape Town
South Africa
I have little experience with those slides, but one lesson I did learn was to cover the screwholes in the slide bars so that the seals can work correctly.
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  #240  
Old Fri 19 March 2010, 06:41
KenC
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Klang
Malaysia
This bag of green button had puzzled me from the day I received them...
rail screw hole button.jpg

Now I know its for sealing the screw holes...
screw holes covered.jpg
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