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shelbygt500buddy Tue 30 June 2009 17:02

Started my Cnc Machine (non-MechMate) Today - Stuart, FL
 
I have started the electronics did the simple heatsink havent decided how i want to mount it in the case yet...

Also been scrounging for metal got an old trailer 4'x8' breaking that down and sandblasting it at the moment (that was free and will do 75% of my machine) got the four legs for the machine for 5 dollars... And 4 g201's and 4 pacific scientfic motors all for 550 dollars with shipping... Small problem though they are all the same exact model but 2 say vs(dc) 35v and the other 2 say 1.99 v so i really dont know what to do about all that...

But here are my pics nothing to much so far... tomorrow i will hopefully mount the heatsink get thermal gell and wire for the motors tomorrow... Still waiting on breakoutboard and waiting to figure out the motor voltage so i can plan the power supply...

If you have any suggestions let me know...

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...cture002-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...Picture003.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...y/untitled.jpg

smreish Tue 30 June 2009 18:51

Kyle,
Please pay very close attention to the beginning of the the drawing package.
The table support cross bearers are not symmetrical about centerline of the table. There is a significant offset - about 4" off midline due to the cutting tool being offset in the y-car.

Sean

Gerald D Tue 30 June 2009 21:02

Quote:
Originally Posted by shelbygt500buddy View Post
. . . 2 say vs(dc) 35v and the other 2 say 1.99 v so i really dont know what to do about all that...
We don't bother with the Volt ratings supplied with the motors, so it doesn't matter to us that they are different. Just check for equal heating when they are powered up.

shelbygt500buddy Wed 01 July 2009 15:33

I didnt get the vexta i got pacific scientific... im not sure if you noticed that... and if i dont worry about the voltage... what should my power supply be... if you want ill post pics of the motors to show you...

Gerald D Wed 01 July 2009 20:33

Did see the Pacific Scien. - makes no difference to a Vexta for example. The power supply voltage is calculated from the motor inductances. See Calculate the Voltage and VA size of the DC power supply for stepper motors/geckos

shelbygt500buddy Fri 03 July 2009 15:14

Please check my work
 
Okay i called the company today and got the inductance of my motor model... They say it is 1.68... So i figure 42v (rounded up)... Can you please check my work? the amp rating is 5.9 so i will need 15amps supply? Is the 42v all i will need? My motors are bipolar just so you know.

Gerald D Fri 03 July 2009 22:18

Kyle, can you point us to a spec. sheet for the motors, or the model numbers, or even photos of the motors? The info you have provided so far is very sketchy and there could be confusion and mistakes.

shelbygt500buddy Sat 04 July 2009 14:21

Yeah tell me about it lol... spec sheet im not sure if i can get i will have to callt he company back if i do... umm here are the pics the company said the inductance was 1.68

sorry youre going to have to zoon :(

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38...cture002-2.jpg

Gerald D Sat 04 July 2009 15:23

Are they both 4-wire motors? Same colour wires?

Sorry, but I cannot zoom enough to read the model numbers clearly.

Richards Sat 04 July 2009 17:50

If possible, it is best to use the more modern "square" motors. The older style "round" motors have less torque than the square motors.

I have 8 round motors, 4 of them are the PH299-03AA motors that I've never be able to use because of their high inductance, 1 of them is a Superior brand motor that was highly rated when I bought it in 1982. It ran a machine for more than 15 years and still works very well, but it only has 200 oz*in of torque. Similar sized square motors have 600 oz*in of torque.

To those who have access to round motors, I would suggest testing them with a power supply that puts out 35 to 40 VDC. If they work with that voltage, then you will be able to replace them with the PK296A2A-SG7.2 motors later on, or a PK296-03AA or PK296-F4.5A motor if you build your own gearbox.

shelbygt500buddy Sun 05 July 2009 11:33

i realize they square motors are better and i will upgrade to those but i had these ones so i figured i would use them for the mean time... umm here are what the labels read (second time typing this so im frustrated lol)

The ones with out green wires:
h31nrhb-lnn-ns-00
1.99 v(dc) bipolar
5.9 a(dc) bipolar

The ones with green wires
h31nrhb-lnn-ns-00
is(dc): 5.9 a bipolar parallel
vs(dc): 35 v

Gerald D Sun 05 July 2009 12:13

From this document . http://www.pacsci.com/support/documents/mtd/c-82.pdf those motors are pre-wired parallel with only 4 leads coming out. Can't find that inductance value, and whether it applies per coil, or per the paralleled coils. My first stab at a supply voltage would be the 35VDC printed on the one motor. (15 Amp total is okay).

Hope you have belt-drives planned for those motors because they seem too light for direct drive.

mikefoged Sun 05 July 2009 16:12

h31nrhb-lnn-ns-00 this is 1 stack and as Gerald said they are to light
mine is also one stack and I had to put the belt-drives on.

shelbygt500buddy Sun 05 July 2009 17:05

Yeah i was going to design a belt drive for them... planning a 7:1 ratio for those... i was told they are 500 oz but i guess we will see...

shelbygt500buddy Mon 06 July 2009 14:06

Yup old technology i called the company back the green is ground and the torque is 233 in/oz meaning either gear down or buy new motors... trying to work out a deal with the guy that supplied them he said maybe a refund idk...


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