Working On A Drag Knife for Vinyl! #117 - Bassett, VA
Hello all,
Thought I'd introduce myself, Tom Ayres, master woodworker by trade. My knowlege of cnc's is small, I almost bought a unit for $175K for my business. I just couldn't justify the $6k+/mth payment, quite an unsettling feeling of that kind of debt. Glad I didn't, but in the research process learned how much I need to learn... Thought I'd apply my need for learning, so i've taken up electronics, my 11 year old son is into computers and has an interest in robotics. What better way to combine the two and my focus on detail, teach my son and myself something thats a strong life lesson and not to mention something that is also potential money generator! Overall still very new to this and any support is greatly appreciated! Thanks! Tom |
Hey Tom,
I am very new to this site myself. I found it by accident one day and I have not stopped reading posts and making a few Inquiries. I also spend a fair bit of time studying the drawings and relating them to the threads on this site. I am getting costs for all of the components and working out other logistical issues. Since I am travelling alot right now with my job, I will not start anything until I know I can put maximum effort into it. I will say that this is a great site. There are some really great folks here and they seem to being so willing to help each other out. I have talked directly with some and am making arrangements to visit some guys that are either making a machine or have one running. Don't be shy about asking questions. As I said people here are very wiling to help. I have asked some dumb questions and have not been made to feel like an idiot - a sign of a quality group of people. I spent a fair bit of time in Basset,Virginia year ago at the Furniture plant. Well, look forward to seeing your build record. Good luck. Dan |
Welcome Tom and Dan,
It is a great site and the machine is even better. Most of us come with different expertise or none. Mine is software and I was able to still build a machine. If you have a question(s) some one will answer it or Gerald will. You have to do the leg work but we will be happy to assist you if you run into a boulder. We like to see lots of pictures. It is always interesting to see what others are doing with their build or machine. Happy building. |
Hi Tom, looks like you have gotten all the drawings downloaded now?
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Gerald,
Thanks. But no, I still can not pull part1 and part3 files, I've just about recked my computer by changing settings/configurations, finally got it somewhat back to normal. Maybe it would be better for someone to email it to me. My brother-in-law is always sending me file 5-10mb and they seem fine. These files are just over 2mb. Whats your take? |
Oops! By-the-way, thanks for the warm welcome guys. I'm looking forward to this build.
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Hey Tom,
I'll be glad to try to help. Send me an E-Mail with your E-Mail address and I'll send you two different E-Mails, one with Part 1 and one with Part 3. How does that sound? Regards, John |
Sounds Great!:) Thanks, I'm really itching to get a good hard look at this.
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MM Number Assignment
At what point is there a number assigned to your machine? When you start or when you finish? And from who or where do you get said number?
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Tom,
A living serial number document is kept here by a forum member and authorized by Mike and/or Gerald. Your machine gets a serial number at the end when it: - is painted - has logo's on all the required parts of the machine - cuts and makes dust (or water jet, or plasma, draws with a sharpie) |
Thanks Sean, I guess I'll have to wait, lol. I just finally got started after 3 years.
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Sorta Newby - Again
I'm sorta reintroducing myself because several years ago I was kicking around the idea of making a machine for myself. Well about a month ago I finally pulled the trigger and ordered some steel.
I haven't decided on 5 x 10 or 5 x 12 (go big or go home), OM pk299-f4.5a w/4:1 belt reduction. Software is up in the air. The frame of the MM seams small for the larger tables so I may 'beef it up', I dunno. Dust collection yes, and vaccuum in the future. I have several welders (mig, stick, tig and a plasma cutter), 7x12 bandsaw, etc. I not too bad at that stuff, but I am a woodworker so metal is not my forte. I'm a fairly quick learner and my 14 year old son who wants to become an engineer will be assisting me. We home school our children and what better thing to teach, you've go electronics, computer related stuff, robotics, metalwork, system design and many other benefits. I'm sure he'll be teaching me a thing or two. I look forward to this build and thank all in advance for your assistance. I'll be doing this in spare time (work two jobs) and resources so it may take a bit of time. But I think I may be ready for the laser parts in the next month or so anyway. Thanks All, Tom |
Looking forward to watching your build progress, Tom.
Good Luck!! |
Good to see you are still around Tom!
Best of Luck! |
Welcome back !!! Glad to see folks diving in on some new builds !!!
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Just dragged the steel in 15 minutes ago, the 14' x 8 x 2.25 can be quite heavy to move by yourself. Shew!
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Official MM Color
I know this is a stupid question, but what is the official MechMate color????:o
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Ford Blue if I recall. There was a paint code floating around years ago but dont remember it at the moment. A lot of people in the states seem to use rustoleum Sail Blue. Here in Canada it is Tremclad Light Blue.
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Thanks Heath, I'm really not a Ford man, could I use Chevy Orange, Ha Ha. I wonder the average number of cans of rustoleum are used...I think I'd be better off getting automotive paint and primer.
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Tom,
I sprayed my machine with rattler can rustoleum blue from HD. I don't remember how many cans I used besides the one that blew up in my truck. Gerald would like to see them in blue but he hasn't disallowed any other color so pick a color you love or can live with. |
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Thanks for the link Gerald. I'll call it MM Blue, I really like someone's machine(s) with the white and the black rails, any objections?
Nils, I guess it must have been summer time...that's your excuse to cover up the bank-job, right, huh?;) |
Mike Metalhead owns all the rights now - I don't think he is too fussy about the particular colour.
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Tom,
You can buy the rustoleum in a gallon format as well. You can thin it and spray it with a gun if you want. Or brush or roller as well. |
Isn't the rustoleum a paint and primer in one? I'd have to spray it, after many years of cabinet work I don't have the patience to apply paint and watch it dry. As a matter of fact, I've got an english wheel I made a year ago that has yet to be painted. Maybe I'll paint it MM Blue as well.
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Tom,
You can use rustoleum on bare metal or over a primer. A primer is always a good idea in my book. :) Grab an adult beverage when watching paint dry. Makes the time go better! :) |
I received an email from Eastwood, they just happen to have some of their Hot Rod paint kits on sale, they have a real nice GM Muisanne Blue (GM code 26, 70-72 Chevelle) which is as close as to MM Blue as I could get, on sale that is.
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Its About Time!
Well Fellas (and Kim ;)), I final started my build. It is official, I've welded some steel in the past few days, just received my laser cut and bent parts from Metalhead Mike (thanks by-the-way). I will try to post a few pics periodically. Just can't seem to get enough time to really dig in and get some real progress going (those pesky customers always wanting something). Well, this is where it begins. I look forward to picking your brains for advise and thanks in advance guys!
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Congrats Tom! Good Luck. :)
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Good job Tom :)
you do know you can keep posting in u're other thread without the need to create a new thread for each section, it'll be moved by the mods |
Dave, Hey how'd you do that? Do I post to my 'Newby' thread?
Again thanks Heath, was out welding till 2 this morning now I've got to go work. Need more sleep. |
I didn't do anything Tom, The mods have just tidied up your threads by merging them all into your original. If you just keep replying to this thread with updates and questions people will see them all in one place to follow your build and help you on your journey
Dave |
I'll be more careful of what I say now that I know my little messages aren't hidden throughout the forum. My ignorance may appear closer in the mirror.:D
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Just went back and read your intro...Exactly what is a Master Woodworker, and where does one recieve such a designation? Did you attend a school, or is it sort of a self proclaimed title?
I've heard others refer to themselves in a like mannner, and always wondered where it came from. Thanks, Darren |
Hey Darren, for the most part it means I do my job better than average. The distinction was given to me by my peers at a local guild based on repeated quality work presented to the guild. Means nothing though as I know many others who's work I envy. But I am well versed in many aspects of woodworking, not turning so much, doesn't interest me. I guess anyone who can claim it if they have the chops.
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Tom,
Nice campers and website. I had trouble looking at your gallery. It was very slow loading. I would think that you have good sales with people that like to tailgate party for football games. |
Yeah some of the files are large and we're doing some maintenance to incorporated another business venture. If you are referring to the young ladies, I definitely agree. This last Christmas we were featured in the 2012 Neiman-Marcus Fantasy Gift Catalog and have one of our tailgaters listed at $150k, we've sold only 1 at that price but have had many that fall in the $45k-$75k marks. We are now nailing down final details on a deal with the NFL (big stuff).
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I've got to do some finishing on a few cabs this evening so I see little getting done on big blue. I'm building it in my shop here at the house and 1200sf is hardly large enough to do both simultaneously, contamination of the finishes.
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Just had a few minutes to research some of the controls and was wondering if this contactor is accepable? http://www.factorymation.com/Products/CU-22-I6.html Are there others that can be suggested as options?
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Depends what size spindle you wish to use and what Voltage you're running?
Being you are in the US i'm assuming you'll go single phase 110V ? in which chase that contactor could be on the small side as the specs show 25A @ 110 which would work out to be around 2750W so by the time you take into account losses throughout the system it would prolly just be right for a 1.5kw/2kw spindle, but wouldn't for a 3kw spindle |
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