Trying to do this type of fluting...

[kanankeban]

Hello,
Does someone knows how to acomplish this type of fluting. Im usiung Aspire, and 3DCarve...they both have fluting options, but only two ways to get in an out of the wood, 1. start and finish, and in porcentage...It will be nice if it had a random option to go in and out, or other option you can specify point of entry and exit in between the lines...
Does any one knows a software that can do this?

[danilom]

Try using the "texture toolpath" option in Aspire its right next to the fluting toolpath

[ger21]

I made some 4x10 MDF panels like this using AutoCAD to draw the actual toolpaths. It took several hours of trial and error to get the look right, but they came out great.

I'm not aware of any software that can create panels like these.

[smreish]

..That type of detail is a very special trade secret for those that take the time to develop the tool paths.

It is a beautiful look, but requires A LOT of time (as you know) to build those 3D paths.

Go way back into the archives and you will see Gerald & CAM CRAFT making these panels many years ago. Wavy patterns are difficult to get right - but once you do - it's awesome! YouTube has a number of videos up showing these being created by MechMate #1

[WTI]

The Resolution CD player has cool waves similar to that CNCd into the aluminum on its lid.

[Jason Marsha]

I saw something similar in Ucancam software.

http://www.ucancam.com/en.asp

[danilom]

As I said before the Aspire can do that easily here is the simple tutorial
http://www.3dmodelclub.com/cmsj15/images/stories/site_content/tutorials/background_texturing_with_Aspire/Textured_Background.pdf

If you draw your own vectors and use them to make the toolpath then you can define the shape dunes just like you want it.

[kanankeban]

I made some 4x10 MDF panels like this using AutoCAD to draw the actual toolpaths. It took several hours of trial and error to get the look right, but they came out great.

I'm not aware of any software that can create panels like these.

Very nice work, what bit did you use?

[ger21]

I believe it was a 1" diameter core box bit, with a 5/8" stepover, cut in one pass at full depth (on a machine with a 10HP spindle).

When viewed from the top, the toolpaths appear as straight lines, as only the X and Z values changed across the panel.

[kanankeban]

I found which software will make this easy...but :o its very expensive...enroute 4 pro will do it with it rapid texture tool, price is about $2500 to $3000 just to much!!!

[danilom]

Does anyone reads my posts, if you have Aspire its all you need
here is the video tutorial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb5_PpXcjFk
http://www.cnc.rs/mechmate/texturing.jpg

[smreish]

Danilo,
First, yes we have read your post's and they are very correct and instructional. For myself, and like many others, we don't own Aspire.

The contours that are "just recently" available in Aspire (and Artcam) were never available and not easy to create. Thus, the reason I put in a former post that those are "trade secret" items.

For me, for the past 10+ years, that type of profile required me to build a 3d spline path in Autocad and then export to a tool file. It took days to create a texture that could be tiled and repeated on any of the machines in our shop.

Thank you for showing us the "easy" way of creating these textures. A definite plus to owning another Vectric product.

[danilom]

I posted about using Aspire as the Hector who asked the question said:
" Im usiung Aspire, and 3DCarve...they both have fluting options,...."

They could be created in million other ways but as he owns Aspire I suggested that :)
If someone without Aspire would like me to make some texture toolpath feel free to ask!

[kanankeban]

I posted about using Aspire as the Hector who asked the question said:
" Im usiung Aspire, and 3DCarve...they both have fluting options,...."

They could be created in million other ways but as he owns Aspire I suggested that :)
If someone without Aspire would like me to make some texture toolpath feel free to ask!

Any clues how to solve a wave pattern in aspire and how to make it tileable?

[ger21]

Does anyone reads my posts, if you have Aspire its all you need

If you want to create basic textures, then yes, but the really nice ones, with curved textures, cannot be done in aspire. I don't believe you can come close to the sample that I posted just using Aspire.
Try these in Aspire:
http://www.interlam-design.com/Art_Product_List.cfm?id=COP008
http://www.interlam-design.com/Art_Product_List.cfm?id=COP802
http://www.interlam-design.com/Art_Product_List.cfm?id=COU001
http://www.interlam-design.com/Art_Product_List.cfm?id=COU001x2
http://www.interlam-design.com/Art_Product_List.cfm?id=SOU009

[kanankeban]

If you want to create basic textures, then yes, but the really nice ones, with curved textures, cannot be done in aspire. I don't believe you can come close to the sample that I posted just using Aspire.
Try these in Aspire:
http://www.interlam-design.com/Art_Product_List.cfm?id=COP008
http://www.interlam-design.com/Art_Product_List.cfm?id=COP802
http://www.interlam-design.com/Art_Product_List.cfm?id=COU001
http://www.interlam-design.com/Art_Product_List.cfm?id=COU001x2
http://www.interlam-design.com/Art_Product_List.cfm?id=SOU009

Oh my GOD!!! Beautifull work...Wonder what software do they use...and guess they use a really big industrial router!!!

[danilom]

One thing I learned is that industry keeps things simple so they can produce fast. No matter how complicated it looks its always some simple method behind. Like this panel,
just use constant profile pass and vary the width between passes and you will get the effect (done this by tracing the centerline):
http://www.cnc.rs/mechmate/curved_panel1.png
http://www.cnc.rs/mechmate/curved_panel2.png

Aspire file (http://www.cnc.rs/mechmate/curved_panel.crv3d)

others can be produced just like this one, the random ones need a bit work to make the wanted effect by using passes that interfere with each other

[polishpickle]

I like to use the texture pictures that come with autodesk 123d that is a free download. In Aspire and use the create a component from bitmap and import the texture that I like. Very easy to do.

[lunaj76]

Hey Guys,

I am looking to make textured panels like these also. I have Vcarvepro and am just using the texture toolpath option. The tutorials on the Vectric web site helped me alot. I know that with Enroute you can do parametric textured panels.

I called Interlam and they told me that some of their designs take up to 6 hours to cut on their huge industrial routers.

[lunaj76]

Hi Danilo,

Could you save that file you posted as a vcarvepro file and repost?

Thanks,

Justin

[danilom]

Sorry but Aspire can't save file for vcarve. here are the vectors I used
www.cnc.rs/mechmate/curved_panel.eps
size is metric in mm and for this size I entered 23mm ballnose, play around with different sizes and curves.

[lunaj76]

This will work. Thanks! I just finished my first install of some textured panels on a bar front. Once they are painted I will post pics.

[silverdog]

Very interessing thread ! :-)
Can't remember where I learned ... but there is a very good method that you can use with all the software ....
This is an alternative to the Danilo's method in post #17. The difference is that the height of the pass is variable.
The method consist in tracing two vectors that will be closed at the end, let's call rail 1 and rail 2, then you will copy&paste rail 2 in a second layer (layer B) but exactly in the same position (rail 2b),now you will trace a 3d vector on layer B and you will close this vector with rail 2b, copy rail 3b and paste it on the 1st layer (A) , trace "rail 4" on layer A ecc. ecc.
When you have enough "rail" you will Vcarve those rails in two different toolpaths, one for layer A and one for layer B. You have to use a Ball mill that is at least bigger than the maximum distance of yours "rails".
The effect of this method is to have a depth proportional to the distance of the two coupled "rails".
Hope my english is understandable ( my explanation too :o ).If not .... A small example worth many words :)

[lunaj76]

Does it look like this?

[silverdog]

Does it look like this?

yes and no ....
the ball mill should be bigger .... try 40mmm or 2"inch ....

[silverdog]

At least if I see well your pictures :o ... if the darker areas are shadows it's ok , if are uncutted material then you should enlarge the ballmill.