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fabrica
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Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 04:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Gerald, I will try to follow your instructions today and see what I could come up with.
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reza forushani
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Posted on Saturday, February 10, 2007 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Which router is the easiest to install in the Mechmate?
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Gerald_D
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Posted on Monday, February 12, 2007 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Apparently, the easiest mounting routers are the Milwaukee 5625-29 and the Porter Cable 75182 (that is the 7518 without the base and handles)

But, they are only available in 110V countries.

Having never seen one in real life, I can't help with a bracket design unless someone does some measurements for me. The Milwaukee is slightly smaller than the PC - it needs a sleeve/shim/spacer when going into a bracket designed for a PC.
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reza forushani
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 03:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks gerald. On the Milwaukee do I need to buy the base as well or not. On the PC do the handles come off?
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Gerald_D
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 05:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You don't need the base of the Milwaukee. The handles/base of the PC does come off.

Apparently there isn't much of a price reduction for buying these routers without their handles/bases.
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vadeem
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This website has the Milwaukee 5625-20 (3.5 hp + base) for only 276.49 shipped to the lower 48 states:

http://www.tools-plus.com/milwaukee-5625-20.html

That is less than Amazon and you get a base to sell on ebay (or figure a way to make a mount of some sort out of it)

Their website looks good in that your ENTIRE order ships for flat $6.50 .
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Gerald_D
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 08:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, don't dump the bases, we might be able to convert them for the MechMate's attachment point.
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reza forushani
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is the difference between 5625-20 and 5625-29?
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reza forushani
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just ordered 5625-20 for $269.99.
Thanks for everyone's help
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Gerald_D
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regarding the Milwaukee 5625...

I think the standard supply is 1/4 and 1/2" collets each with a fitted nut. These are the relevant part numbers:

1/4" Collet only, part no. 48-66-0985 (With nut, PN: 48-66-1015)
3/8" Collet only, part no. 48-66-1000 (apparently this one is not part of the standard supply)
1/2" Collet only part no. 48-66-1010 (With nut, PN: 48-66-1020)

...but you probably want all of them. You might also want a separate nut (PN 44-40-0095) for each of them. Don't know the number of 3/8" collet assembly with nut.

To install and remove the nut, see operator's manual

Also, you won't be sorry if you bought a spare set of brushes and bearings with the tool - see parts list.

Here is Paco's blog on changing the brushes - watch that space for intructions on changing the bearings.
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DocTanner
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Milwaukee 5625 comes with a 1/2" collet.
The router is slightly larger than 4 inches
I used 4 inches of 4" id pipe, cutting it the weld on the inside of the pipe, and welded 2 flanges with bolt holes for securing the router.
This was welded directly to the Z-plate.

I'll try to post a pic of this this evening.

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DocTanner
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 02:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is a pic of it.



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Gerald_D
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Posted on Wednesday, February 14, 2007 - 07:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah, good to see some nice workmanship - radiussed corners, washers under nuts, shiny blue paint.....:-)
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James Webster
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Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It took only 2 days to get the 5625-20 Milwaukee router from Tools Plus. Router came nicely packed.

Ours arrived with ONLY a 1/4" collet. A quick call to Milwaukee came up with the fact that it is supposed to come with ONLY a 1/2" collet. Box was original factory sealed, so it was Milwaukee's fault. They are sending a 1/2" out. Be aware that many of you would rather have the 1/4" anyway.

Here are some base pics if anyone wants to start dreaming up a universal mounting idea:
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James Webster
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Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here are the holes with the handles removed. They slant up at an angle, so they are pretty much worthless.

The metal is thin cast, so drilling and tapping some new holes is unlikely. Its just too thin.

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James Webster
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Posted on Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is the underside showing how thin the casting walls are under the handles.

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Gerald_D
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great pictures James, thanks!

An idea.....?

Cut base off (we only need the body clamp)
Go up inside the casting with threaded flat bars
Put new holes in the casting for screws through to the flats inside:

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Go from those flat bars to the z-slide on the left (the clamp-screw away from the slide)? . ? . ?

James (or anyone else who also has this Milwaukee), could you measure the body diameter with a vernier caliper for us? (Doc says it is slightly over 4") Some more overall dimensions would also be useful. I want to see if I can design an adapter that mates to the mounting holes on the z-slide.....
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DocTanner
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps combining Gerald's system of the quick change plate welded onto a 4" pipe would be an effective simple solution.
Welding mine to the Z-plate shouldn't present any problems.

Later, if I desire a different tool in the holder, the MechMate can cut an adapter to fit inside the pipe.


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Gerald_D
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Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am fond of hydraulic pipe clamps when needing to mount a round item to a flat surface. See McMaster-Carr item 3015T338 or 3015T314.
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James Webster
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Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Milwaukee body is 105mm (4.14") in diameter.
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Gerald_D
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Posted on Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for that James. Hey, you are in the telescope mounting business, how about designing and producing a mount for us? :-)
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James Webster
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I saw some of these clamps at the local hardware store. They are called "Iron Pipe Repair Clamp" They did not have 4" in stock, but they could order them.

They look like they might be a good mount (RS-2):

http://www.romacon.nl/RomaconEnglish.html



Here is a picture of an even simplier one:
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Paco
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Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 08:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

At last... how to replace the Milwaukee 5625 bearings.

DocTanner and all, you might want to take a look at it for "How to remove the depth adjustment screw from the motor...
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Paco
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 05:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is something new I've tried about the MK5625 bearings...
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Evan Curtis
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Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 11:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Once again, Good work Paco!

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